The Pontiac Solstice Was a Better Miata from General Motors

The Pontiac Solstice was a Mazda Miata from General Motors -- except I think it was better. Today I'm reviewing the Solstice GXP to explain what was and what I think about it, and I'm going to take you on a tour of the Solstice. I'm also going to drive the Solstice GXP and show you what the Pontiac Solstice was like on the road.
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  1. Kiril Jerigin

    Kiril Jerigin48 דקות לפני

    8:24. sorry what?

  2. Kiril Jerigin

    Kiril Jerigin51 דקה לפני

    supra dash , version simple

  3. AmanOU2be

    AmanOU2be6 שעות לפני

    If anyone wants to see how insane the Kappa platform was about to be, check out the Breckland Beira.

  4. AmanOU2be

    AmanOU2be6 שעות לפני

    Dual tips, not dual exhaust. "Neesh" not "nitch"

  5. thomas aquinas

    thomas aquinas8 שעות לפני

    If you are all for US manufacturing, you have to read the history of the big 3 and only sigh. GM had 1,000 chances to maintain their greatness, only to put out cars with flaws, some of them easily fixed. The Corvair, the Vega, the Solstice, all of these and more had all the sinews of a market leader. The Solstice didn't have to do much to be a sparkling presence on the sales floor. Instead, it just quietly faded away, never properly promoted.

  6. My New Life

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  7. David Meier

    David Meierיום לפני

    Always loved the looks of this car, but the GM badge is off-putting.

  8. Gun Monkey

    Gun Monkey2 ימים לפני

    There are other reasons that people preferred the Miata. Pontiac is the same stellar company that brought you the Fiero and that is not going to help your brand. Also, in that line, maintenance (though the Miata never needed much) for the Miata would be cheaper and needed less frequently. Moreover, the Miata’s size made it more fun to drive, though quite scary when passing a 18 wheeler knowing you could literally be sucked under it.

  9. Jeremy G

    Jeremy G3 ימים לפני

    I have a 2009 Solstice GXP Coupe #339 for sale if anyone is interested. Only 1266 coupes made before they shut down Pontiac. Mine is white with a painted blue strip on it. Message me for info. (Today's Date 1.18.21)

  10. Adam Matis

    Adam Matis4 ימים לפני

    This is legit my wife's dream car. She had posters of it in high school.

  11. noraneko nekomatagi

    noraneko nekomatagi4 ימים לפני

    15:50 SHA❤CAT

  12. New World Disorder

    New World Disorder5 ימים לפני

    Bring back Pontiac!

  13. S J

    S J5 ימים לפני

    I only watch this video for the voice crack at 3:16

  14. 1994 Honda Civic GLi

    1994 Honda Civic GLi6 ימים לפני

    ...And Jeremy Clarkson hates it.

  15. Cynical Sayonara

    Cynical Sayonara6 ימים לפני

    I remember when this car came out. It was so damn girly looking. Bought another Trans Am and forgot about this “gay best friend” car.

  16. Rogred

    Rogred7 ימים לפני

    Why would you let someone review your car when it's this dirty?

  17. HaloFan

    HaloFan8 ימים לפני

    “Want a piece of me!?” “I’ll take two!”

  18. HaloFan

    HaloFan2 שעות לפני

    @AmanOU2be yay someone got it

  19. AmanOU2be

    AmanOU2be6 שעות לפני

    Awwwww, Jazz..........

  20. Brad Wolf

    Brad Wolf8 ימים לפני

    Yellow is in. - Eugene Kwok

  21. fastyguy99

    fastyguy999 ימים לפני

    Doug, wash the man's car, np to send you coins for next time...

  22. gmhummerh2

    gmhummerh210 ימים לפני

    It's not a MIATA. Stop saying that, please!

  23. big spicy wiener

    big spicy wiener10 ימים לפני

    Saturn Sky > Pontiac Solstice Fight me

  24. yoav shavit

    yoav shavit12 ימים לפני

    I’ve seen just about all of your videos and this is one of my favorites! Keep on the enthusiasm about cars! I enjoy every second of it

  25. Zedament

    Zedament14 ימים לפני

    I own a Saturn Sky. I am pretty happy with it. I'm glad you gave it such a good review.

  26. nostickpeople

    nostickpeople17 ימים לפני

    The scion Skye was a better version. Had a Honda v6 and no nasty retro grill

  27. No Name

    No Name2 ימים לפני

    I hope you're joking

  28. NYOB0001

    NYOB000117 ימים לפני

    I also prefer the Saturn version.

  29. jnicholsonjr

    jnicholsonjr18 ימים לפני

    My friend had this exact car in GXP trim, and myself a NC miata in GT trim... We both preferred the Mazda for its refinement, character, and practicality. The fun we had with the solstice was related to its speed and the fact that its a head turner driving slow on a local strip. The GXP was less exciting to drive despite its straight line speed, and at times felt cheezy, under engineered (parts bin heavy, limited chassis design/suspension testing) and as a result the end product feels rushed. You buy this car for the look. I know the GM engineer in charge of translating the concept to production, and I can assure you the achievement with the solstice was bringing concept car styling from sketch to showroom through a bureaucracy like old GM. Some really innovative panel shaping techniques were invented for this project also. It's a shame the volt didn't have the same luck in translating from concept to production and now GM has to learn the hard way, by stick from Elon Musk. It would have been nice to see a second generation solstice GXP but GM's north star is to lose its way over and over.

  30. Ko Lay

    Ko Lay18 ימים לפני

    Dough Mario in every video be like:Thisss...

  31. Skyler Lucky

    Skyler Lucky19 ימים לפני

    Hummm, is this a Canada car gauge was in kilometers per hour

  32. Skyler Lucky

    Skyler Lucky19 ימים לפני

    You compare it to a Miata, a Miata is like Chuck steak, and the GM roadster is Porterhouse. No comparison. That’s like saying a Porsche Cayenne is like a Ford Explorer .

  33. Skyler Lucky

    Skyler Lucky19 ימים לפני

    I love my Saturn Sky Redline better, it is my baby Vette, Miata doesn’t hold a candle to my Sky factory coil overs spaceframe. It’s my baby Vette. Most people have no clue what it is. And some think its a Vette, it only has 42,000ish miles

  34. Adam Newlan

    Adam Newlan20 ימים לפני

    I think there wasa Holden version in Australia for a very short time

  35. No Name

    No Name2 ימים לפני

    you're thinking about the tigra

  36. El Rafa

    El Rafa21 יום לפני

    Miata is a Grrrlls car

  37. biochem70

    biochem7021 יום לפני

    $10k? The same era Miatas, 350z convertibles and even my BMW Z4 are going for half that now.

  38. Jose Rivera

    Jose Rivera22 ימים לפני

    I just love early 2000’s cheap GM plastic.

  39. Panah

    Panah23 ימים לפני

    Fantastic aesthetic, unfortunately the plethora of malfunctions and issues would lead me to pass it as a car to own personally. I'd rather not be turned into another statistic due to the cars faulty Ignition locking system.

  40. Padraic McDonnell

    Padraic McDonnell23 ימים לפני

    Bob Lutz ordered the first prototype made and Franz von Holzhausen designed it.

  41. Jackson

    Jackson23 ימים לפני


  42. Angel Alejo

    Angel Alejo24 ימים לפני

    Got this recommended after watching Adam Lz LS swap his moms car

  43. PhoenixUltraMotive

    PhoenixUltraMotive24 ימים לפני

    Impossible. Nothing can be better than Miata

  44. Raeshon Hernandez

    Raeshon Hernandez24 ימים לפני

    Who is here after Adam Lz LS swap his mom own😂

  45. George Harley Rider

    George Harley Rider24 ימים לפני

    General motors should make another two seater to compete with the Mazda Miata.

  46. James Barros

    James Barros24 ימים לפני

    Oh... compared to an NC.... it all makes sense now.

  47. Tendra Delrissian

    Tendra Delrissian24 ימים לפני

    All drivetrain and major mechanical parts are off the shelf GM items used in a variety of vehicles. The LNF engine has been upgraded by a couple generations, and the new version (LDK) bolts in with little modification. Transmission is just an Aisin (either auto or manual), used everywhere. The rear diff is a Caddy mechanical limited slip. Replacement sheet metal is a problem, and don't bend the frame. LOL As long as you don't actually wreck the car, there should be no reason you can't keep it running for a very long time. That being said, I have enough spare parts to practically build another one, including a spare engine.......

  48. Charles M Rinehart

    Charles M Rinehart25 ימים לפני

    Good luck finding parts for any Solstice.

  49. Ed Baker

    Ed Baker25 ימים לפני

    They should have rebranded it and kept it going after they shut down Pontiac.

  50. Tendra Delrissian

    Tendra Delrissian25 ימים לפני

    Doug: GM offered a GMPP dealer installed tune for the Pontiac GXP and Saturn Redline. For about an extra $1,000: The car's power was turned up to 290 HP and 340 lbs of torque. That extra 80 lbs of torque turned these into real little rockets. I have the Sky Redline version. Mine has the GMPP tune plus a couple additional mods, now running approximately 350 HP and 400 lbs of torque. In my humble opinion, the Kappa platform was one of the greatest designs that GM every came up with, and then they kicked it to the curb. They should have kept the platform and moved it to a different division, instead of just tossing it. This is a full boxed frame, with the Body welded-glued to the frame, and true independent suspension with coil over shocks. GM also offered an "off road" suspension upgrade that lowered the car another 1/2 inch and stiffened up the ride even more, which I also have installed on my car. Even the body panels were innovative, they were manufactured via hydro-forming instead of stamping. I am sure you can find someone in CA with one of these tuned up, there are plenty of aftermarket tuners running the power up as well: You will be amazed how well they run with the bigger power.

  51. Slays Media

    Slays Media25 ימים לפני

    Swap an LV3 4.3 v6 into this and it becomes a lighter, faster, and better handling car with improved fuel economy.

  52. Christopher R.

    Christopher R.25 ימים לפני

    Likes GM product better than Miata. /looks up to see who the author was again.... Huh.

  53. derwin gaming

    derwin gaming26 ימים לפני

    miata is better, take it back 😡

  54. hondagang59

    hondagang5927 ימים לפני

    I'm looking at getting one are they safe in a car crash

  55. armando chirino

    armando chirino27 ימים לפני

    There’s a supercharged solstice nearby with only 35k miles...

  56. zoiks 66

    zoiks 66חודש לפני

    I owned a black 2007 Solstice GXP I bought brand new. It was a great car. Very fun to drive, and I only had to have a few minor repairs done. I owned the car for 10 years. After an optional GM performance upgrade that cost $750 along with a couple other minor aftermarket upgrades, the car did 0-60 mph in under 5 seconds.

  57. Rui Cameira

    Rui Cameiraחודש לפני

    a better miata, so they filled for bakruptcy after making the best car in the world, if you never drove a manual how can you say that, bi-turbo ,one cylinder miata wankel engine is worse than this ......what?i doubt it ,one of the best cars in the world and can be tuned till 300 h.p. a second fiero wanna be

  58. Rowan Cucanic

    Rowan Cucanicחודש לפני

    Me: **sees title** “nononononono”

  59. Rads BossCraft

    Rads BossCraftחודש לפני

    honestly if i had to choose i might pick this over a Miata as i find the Miata a bit of a boring pick and i like more unique cars.

  60. Chris Wilson

    Chris Wilsonחודש לפני

    "Better than the miata" oh no Doug, the JDM dorks and weaboos are gonna be mad at you.

  61. James Raymond

    James Raymondחודש לפני

    When did Billy on the Street start reviewing cars??

  62. Ray Gun

    Ray Gunחודש לפני

    My neighbour has one of these in dark blue, and I’ve always thought it was the ugliest, beady eyed little bug I’ve ever seen.

  63. Colin DuBord

    Colin DuBordחודש לפני

    I love my Solstice GXP! I recommend to try one before getting a MX-5.

  64. Funky' Furballs

    Funky' Furballsחודש לפני

    Taller and wider than the Miata and S2000, it seemed to be in a unique size class.

  65. AngPur

    AngPurחודש לפני

    They're never bringing this back. They rebadged it as a saturn for a short while, but the plant they made this was left to languish for yeeeeears... Then they tore it down and a new amazon warehouse is going up in it's place.

  66. Mark Cam

    Mark Camחודש לפני

    Hmmmm Now wait a minute there mister .... The car does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds and you give it just a (5) out of 10 .... For a $10,000 car that is very fast ....

  67. Robert Wilhelm

    Robert Wilhelmחודש לפני

    Please don't compare this disgusting humonculous to a miata

  68. Skate Raptor 1

    Skate Raptor 1חודש לפני

    You guys gotta start learning to be more open minded about the doug scores lmao

  69. Danger Dave

    Danger Daveחודש לפני

    The Solstice is the female of the Kappa cars, especially that bright yellow color. And it's disgustingly dirty.(you would think the owner could have cleaned it up a bit for Doug's review). I'll take my black sky redline tyvm... Some simple bolt on's, a water/meth kit and a tune via HP tuners gets me 330 whp and some serious smiles. : )


    MATEO RINCONחודש לפני

    Everyone: Da-e-woo Doug: Dae-wooooo

  71. Tom Spaulding

    Tom Spauldingחודש לפני

    Actually I thought the Saturn Sky looked better

  72. E. S.

    E. S.חודש לפני

    No other way to tell GXP and base apart, oh only the different front fascia.

  73. TriPyramid Pictures

    TriPyramid Picturesחודש לפני


  74. Steve Keithley

    Steve Keithleyחודש לפני

    That's 2 points higher than your score for the Fiata you did. The antenae looks like it would be real intrusive for the passenger , like inches away from the door. All the raving you did about it while testing surprised me with your final score. I own three Corvettes 82, 96 and 2003 and they all have hoods that open forward.

  75. NF 14

    NF 14חודש לפני

    I definitely prefer its sister Saturn Sky's aesthetic but it still is a nice car

  76. 죠르노버터링

    죠르노버터링חודש לפני

    I hope it will resurrect as a Pontiac electric vehicle brand.

  77. Nicholas Bolton

    Nicholas Boltonחודש לפני

    7:05 how to keep your passenger's leg away so you can shift into 5th gear 😂

  78. John Branco

    John Brancoחודש לפני

    Maximum Bob Lutz dream child. In 2009, they were selling them brand new for $21K. Almost pulled the trigger but bought a Crossfire instead which was also on he chopping block.

  79. Victor Martinez

    Victor Martinezחודש לפני

    The skyy was a gorgeous vehicle. I'd like to own one

  80. ariel estrada

    ariel estradaחודש לפני

    This car reminds me of Driver San Francisco so much, it was fun to drive when escaping from the cops.

  81. Mark Evans

    Mark Evansחודש לפני

    Unfortunately, they fall apart

  82. Joseph Peoples

    Joseph Peoplesחודש לפני

    If you've ever seen the first Transformers movie from 2007, you'll most likely see this car in the movie as one of the transforming vehicles.


    CΣΠTURIΩΠחודש לפני

    I thought Pontiac was dead.


    CΣΠTURIΩΠ2 ימים לפני

    @No Name ah I see

  85. No Name

    No Name2 ימים לפני

    the car was built in 2007 but pontiac continued building cars until 2010

  86. Guillermo Ortiz

    Guillermo Ortizחודש לפני

    It's very annoying to hear you compare it to a Miata so many times

  87. Soda Block

    Soda Blockחודש לפני

    better miata... until its wheels fall off

  88. StayWildGaming l

    StayWildGaming lחודש לפני

    Is the license plate Sha ❤️ cat? Or shart cat? 🤔

  89. StayWildGaming l

    StayWildGaming lחודש לפני

    Pozda Miontac

  90. Larry Jepeal

    Larry Jepealחודש לפני

    3000lbs 260hp vs 2100lbs 170hp pretty close

  91. Tom Wilson

    Tom Wilsonחודש לפני

    wasn't the Cadillac xlr also based on this platform

  92. Alan

    Alanחודש לפני

    The cobalt ss also used this engine

  93. Alan

    Alanחודש לפני

    @Bruce Beauvais the later Gen SS is turbo as was the redline. However the first gen SS was supercharged

  94. Bruce Beauvais

    Bruce Beauvaisחודש לפני

    Wasn’t the Cobalt SS supercharged as was the Ion Redline? This car and it’s Sky equivelent are turbocharged.

  95. Lone Druid98

    Lone Druid98חודש לפני

    I can feel the Winter Solstice approaching❄️☃️🌬

  96. Aaron Balchand

    Aaron Balchandחודש לפני

    C u r v e s

  97. Guru4hire

    Guru4hireחודש לפני

    The best part of the solstice/sky journey was the dealer installed option for another 30 hp for a total of 290 and obscene amounts of torque. "Whoops our bad guys we left some power on the table, just bring it back in and toss us a few hundred bucks and we will hook you up."

  98. Mike Penske

    Mike Penskeחודש לפני

    Better Miata? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  99. Adam Otlewski

    Adam Otlewskiחודש לפני

    When I take my Pontiac Solstice for a weekend trip with the top down, we put our weekender bags in the storage flaps on the front of the seats

  100. James R Peet

    James R Peetחודש לפני

    Is the Saturn Sky the same car?

  101. No Name

    No Name2 ימים לפני


  102. St. M

    St. Mחודש לפני

    Ah yes, the Bob Ross of Car Reviews.... Beat the Doug score out of it

  103. ssbrosking36

    ssbrosking36חודש לפני

    I always wanted one of those. Saturn Sky was cool too.

  104. Day Gamer

    Day Gamerחודש לפני

    I have owned a 2006 solstice, silver with 5sp trans, with 58k miles on it. for a bit over 5 years now. It has been fun and trouble free the whe time. Only complaint: 2 seats, 3 cup holders, but no ash tray. Great car.

  105. CTen2

    CTen2חודש לפני

    I’ve always loved the solstice, when I was a young child on my scooter I used to imagine while I was riding my scooter I was driving a red Pontiac solstice

  106. Kyle Nichol

    Kyle Nicholחודש לפני

    That car is a mess...borderline gross.

  107. charmerci

    charmerci2 חודשים לפני

    I love that the mandated 3rd brake light was slightly lower than the regular ones! LOL (Higher ones at driver's level makes the light more visible to drivers behind reducing the likelihood of rear end crashes.)

  108. Brian Haarmann

    Brian Haarmann2 חודשים לפני

    Have you found a Saturn Sky Redline to review? I'd love to see your review on the sister car to the solstice, OR the even more rare Solstice Coupe` hardtop

  109. davix 2301

    davix 23012 חודשים לפני

    You mean a wayyyyyyyy uglier miata